EP. 23 - tapping into your intuitive power & your highest self

Cardsy B is an intuitive tarot reader whose clients include celebrities, C-suite executives, artists, and entrepreneurs. A former fashion designer at DKNY, Nike and Creative Director at Playboy, she shares how she had a "dark night of the soul," lost everything—her marriage, her high-powered career, and all her money—and how tapping into her intuitive gifts through tarot cards ultimately saved her.

In this episode Lisa Carmen Wang and Cardsy B discuss how to:

  • Tap into spiritual awakenings to access your most authentic and powerful self

  • Attract financial and spiritual abundance into your life and business

  • Banish bad energy from your physical space so you can think clearly

  • Use tarot cards to get clear on career changes, love, and money

  • Make decisions from a place of calm confidence

    Plus, Cardsy B shares an impromptu tarot reading on the Bad Bitch Empire Fund!

FULL TRANSCRIPT

Lisa Carmen Wang 0:02

A bad bitch takes charge of her body, her boundaries, and her bank account.

Lisa Carmen Wang 0:18

What's up bad bitches. Today we're talking about tapping into your intuition, your higher self, and your own inner magic and energy to become the bad bitch You were born to be. I'm here with Cardi B. She's an intuitive tarot reader whose clients include celebrities, C-suite executives, artists, and entrepreneurs. Formerly, she was a designer for DKNY and Nike and creative director and Vice President of Design at Playboy. She's now the author of the Saturn Diaries, a book that shares how she transitioned from a fashion bitch to a tarot bitch, and helps anyone ready to embrace their inner witch and create their own magic card Zb. Welcome to the bad bitch empire.

Cardsy B 1:06

Thank you. I am so grateful to be here. I love the podcast. I love all the work that you're doing to empower women across so many platforms, especially in the financial space. So I'm so grateful to be here.

Lisa Carmen Wang 1:17

Well, I am excited to dive into today's conversation because we haven't had too many discussions about the spiritual side of life, tapping into intuition, learning how to build your bank account through understanding your own energy. So to start off, I would love for you to just tell us about tarot and tarot card reading. What is it? Why should people care? And how do you use it to design your life?

Cardsy B 1:42

Yeah, absolutely. Taro is a divination tool that helps us tap into our own inner guidance system. So people you know, most know it as a deck of cards, people are like, Oh, is it fortune telling cards. To me, it's really a tool that helps us mirror back what we already have within us of our own intuition. So it's something that I learned I was self-taught as a little kid, I just loved astrology, kind of the metaphysical realm, I would save my allowance to buy astral astrological books and tarot decks. And it was something I played with as a kid. And it just wasn't as cool as it is nowadays. So I kind of moved away from it through my teens and my 20s and ended up working in the fashion industry in my adult life. But I went through a period of basically, like losing everything, including all of my finances. And it was the first thing that I came back to center and ground and helped me tap into my intuitive knowing. So I would pull initially coming back to it, pull a card a day and just say, what is the universe? What does my higher self want me to know? And I highly recommend anyone who feels drawn to tarot and curious about it, to get themselves a deck and even just starting with one simple question a day, in the morning or before bed of what does my higher self want? What does the universe want? Want me to know? And how can I be guided to use that to expand and evolve?

Lisa Carmen Wang 3:01

So this idea of the higher self is something I've explored a lot. I've had so many times where I've just leveled up mentally and spiritually. Some people might call it a spiritual awakening. But I really think of a spiritual awakening, as when you have an epiphany. And you're like, Oh, my God, what have I been doing this whole time? And why have I been looking at reality this way, when I now realize there's a whole new way of looking at it, for example, when you shift from scarcity to abundance, or from good girl to bad bitch, or for me, it was realizing that there's just a bunch of people's opinions, I didn't need to care about when my opinion of myself is the most important one. And so I have spent a lot of time thinking about this question, who is the most authentic and most powerful version of myself? And that question is what has helped me level up has helped me had these spiritual awakenings and guided me to this place a bad bitch energy and feeling my power. So how have you seen your Higher Self evolve over time? And how has taro helped you get there?

Cardsy B 4:08

Absolutely. I think and I think the way that you describe that was so eloquent. I mean, for me, I didn't even know like, what the hell my higher self was, until I had that dark night of the soul breakdown well, where I lost literally everything like I went through a divorce, my best friend passed away of HIV related complications, lost my big fancy, you know, global VP job, and all of my money at that point, and I was so out of touch with that, like the like how you described it, I believe our higher selves are kind of the purest, most authentic soul signature of who we are. And you know, in my mind as I was coming through that dark night of the soul and coming into my own healing, working with tools like meditation, coming back to pulling tarot cards for myself, I was so disconnected from that guidance, and it was like, what is it does it sound like Morgan Freeman's voice does it sound like you know, a very stern wise British lady and it's like No, it's just the kind of most calm confident version of us because it's us without caring exactly what you're saying caring what the world thinks caring about these like programs, rules, restrictions, things we should do should follow. And it's like, this is what feels aligned, true, and really authentic to me. And I think that Tarot is a tool that helped me tap into that, because I would look at what I was being shown and the archetypes of the cards and say, Oh, I did see how that showed up for me today. And now I'm seeing why maybe I need to pay attention to that. And that is the higher version of me saying like, Hey, don't just continue to operate on autopilot behavior of these things that you've kind of picked up from other people's beliefs or other people's restrictions. What is it that shows up for you to be the most expanded version of who you can possibly be?

Lisa Carmen Wang 5:50

One of those mental programs that so many of us have is seeking external validation, whether that's through the form of making more money, getting fancy job titles, or getting in the right relationship. How do we reprogram that? And what was your journey, going from seeking validation to seeking magic?

Cardsy B 6:16

Yeah, I mean, I think that like I was the quintessential like, case study of that I was a global VP Vice President of Design. By the time I was 28 years old, I was married to like the girl next door type, we were this like, iconic New York lesbian couple that was in human rights campaigns, it was like all the boxes checked up. Like this is what life is supposed to look like. And as things were pulled out, one by one, my marriage, my career, all of my savings. Like so many things. I was like, wait, if this isn't who I am, then who am I? And it was literally the universe just kind of removing everything that was an identifier from the outside world that really made me have to look at if I don't have any of these things that I thought would make others respect me or others think that I was cool or worthy of their time and energy, then who is it that I am that makes me feel fulfilled and joyful and ingratitude. And that's when it was not planned at all, that I now do this full time in terms of writing and reading Tarot and kind of working in this healing and metaphysical space, it was just the thing that brought a lot of clarity to me. And that as I started to share that with others, I started to do readings for friends and former colleagues in the fashion industry. And they were like, Oh, my gosh, you're really accurate, you're seeing these things come up in exactly the amount of time that was predicted. And so I just kind of wanted to be able to share the tools that were helping me and then that kind of somehow, just like, very organically carved this path forward of this is what I meant to do, because it did bring me a lot of fulfillment, and I love being able to help people in that way. And when I did it, just for the sake of this is what lights me up, then the abundance followed, then I created my own tarot deck and my podcast happened. And then my book was published this past year. So the fact that I was able to live in this state of abundance, doing what I love, it still blows my mind sometimes because I was in that program of like, well, you have to do things this way. This is how you climb the corporate ladder. These are my goals at this point. And I literally just kind of switched into following what makes me feel like the most expanded authentic version of me and continuing to show up like that in the day-to-day is what has led to my career in this space in a way that I could have honestly never imagined five years ago.

Lisa Carmen Wang 8:35

So then do you think that people have to lose everything and have that dark night of the soul in order to really release the validation because, you know, your experience was like, Okay, I got nowhere to go but up, and all these things that I thought to find me and like, they can't define me anymore, and I need to find something so it was out of necessity for you. What do you think about people who are just like, uncomfortable in their jobs? So they're like, I just don't like this relationship. I just don't like this reality and I don't know what else to do.

Cardsy B 9:16

Yes, I would say listen to it when it's still coming at you as a whisper or an audible tone because I refused like I was just like that's not a convenient truth to listen to and I just like shut it down until the universe and my Higher Self are screaming and shouting at me to the point that I was living in a 350 square foot appointment apartment with cockroaches rat holes a gas leak after having like a really beautiful space when I was in my big job with my wife and then just having literally nothing and three figures in my bank account at the bottom point. So I feel like I would say to anyone who's a little bit uncomfortable, listen to it what like while it's there because the universe will continue to squeeze you if you don't, and that's what happened. to me was that it was just things kept being pulled out, it was like, Oh, you're still not looking at making a change or so not looking at stepping more into the truth of who you are, and what you're here to do. Okay, well, then we're going to remove this layer until it literally felt like there was nothing left of what made my life what I believed it to be. So I think if things are a little uncomfortable, it's not that you have to, like completely make a massive, like scary jump, but start leaning into what is it uncomfortable? What are the parts that really don't feel aligned with who I am, what I like to do, and what are the parts that are enjoyable, I even find that a lot of my clients that might be in executive or corporate roles, there are parts of it, that they do love and thrive on, whether it's they love being a really good mentor and a leader to their team. And they're like, that's the part that lights me up in the day-to-day, these kinds of politics and like programmed rules and restrictions are what I really don't feel aligned with, and the way the company might be run they don't feel aligned with. So I would say start looking at what is what feels alienating what's pushing away and kind of does not resonate with you, and what are the parts that really do because that's, that's when you can still get a handle on? What are the changes that I might want to make. And the changes will be less scary, if we address it at that point versus like, basically letting the universe scream and shout at you like I did, like there was nowhere to go. And I was kind of just like, all right, hands up by surrender because I had nothing left to lose at that point.

Lisa Carmen Wang 11:22

Yeah, and I think also that’s where tapping into your intuitive knowing is really important. Because I have, I think each time I've just felt like, there was like an intuitive voice that told me, this is not it. Like there is more that you can do, there's more in this universe for you, you are not using your capabilities and your superpowers in the way that can create the most impact. So every time I felt that I really leaned into it, and I was never really sure what the answer was, I'm like, Okay, well, then what am I supposed to do, and then the boys would be like to do. And, I think it's part of it is just trying to figure out, there are so many voices in our heads, right? There's like the ones that tell you, you should do this, the ones that tell you you shouldn't do this, and everyone has their own opinions. And then I talk about like the good girl voices that are in your head, from your parents to society, to teachers, and your friends who all have their own reality and will tell you that this is the certain kind of life that you should live that is respectable and that other people approve of. But oftentimes, especially if you are meant to make a bigger impact in this world, and have a bigger purpose, the cookie-cutter way of doing things, and just getting the same type of validation that everyone else is getting is often the thing that's going to kill you if you keep succumbing to the small box that people put you in

Cardsy B 12:59

100%. And I think that you know, we like we as humans all tend to see things through just like our individual 3d Human lens of what I believe is possible for me is the max capacity for everyone around me. So if someone out of love is trying to protect you, whether that's a friend or family member is like no, but this is safe because this is all I could see possibilities for myself. So of course, that's the max capacity of whether that's like a certain ranking in you know, a corporate field or a certain amount of money or living a certain way. So I think it is those there are well-meaning voices, but they can be very misunderstanding of our truths when they're shared from a different lens from a different perspective. And in terms of deciphering through that it's something that I definitely like I talk about that in my book I've worked through that with myself and many clients of intuition versus anxiety because it can be tricky it's it's a it's a fine line and one of the things I find in deciphering that is intuition always feels very calm even when it's bad news and I don't know if you've had something like this where you know, you're not gonna get that client or you're not gonna get that job but it feels like I know I didn't get it it's like a calm knowing even when it's not the ideal circumstances where anxiety it feels, it feels like a lot of movement in your physical body whether it's in your chest or your stomach and unsettled and not grounded and and I think even what we would say our negative intuitive knowings feel somewhat grounded and calm of like, Yeah, I know that's not what I wanted, but I kind of know that that that's what's going down versus the like, oh my gosh, worst case scenario five alarm fire. So that's the first thing when I work with people and tapping into that is where do you feel it in your body when you're anxious pay attention to those triggers. Because when you're when you feel intuitive hits, it's very different. It's very kind of like a calm, grounded alignment. And that can help us decipher when both voices are in our heads simultaneously.

Lisa Carmen Wang 14:56

Yeah, I often talk about the fuck yes and no. And I also say when you have a fuck yes, you're like, you know, I feel grounded, my breathing slows down. I feel like it's the right decision. Oh, well, what if maybe like, I'm not sure. And then if it's not a fuck yes, it's a no but every time you're in that weird maybe zone, the gray zone where you can't make a decision. That's when the anxiety hits and you're, you know, breathing a shallower and then you're like, I'm not sure. And then you're like your heart rate goes up. And so yeah, your body is such a powerful tool for telling you what it is that you really need.

Cardsy B 15:39

Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I have a lot of clients who have said, like, through working with Tarot through me, and even like many people that then pull cards for themselves say that they find that it helps them trust that feeling more of like, oh, yeah, that was what I was intuiting myself and having it mirrored back is kind of like, okay, now I know what that feels like. And I start to learn how to trust it as a result. Mm hmm.

Lisa Carmen Wang 16:04

Yeah. So the, how do you typically do tarot readings? You know, when you bring someone in? Are you sending their energy? Are you letting them guide? Just telling you about themselves?

Cardsy B 16:20

Yeah, so I mean, I always tend to ask people, can they come with as many questions as possible? Because if people have no questions, which normally they don't want to book a session, if they're like, Yeah, I got no questions at all. But if they come with zero questions, I will I'll just pull an overview of the energies that are showing up. And then through that, that usually will inspire the client to share like, oh my gosh, yes, that did just happen on that, like, Yes, I was actually thinking of that coming in. But I do ask people like, it helps them this, this is the same if you're pulling cards for yourself working with any tools for yourself. And the more that we hold intention around what is it that we're looking for clarity, like in what areas? Is it? Is it work? Is it how can I best take the conflict at work and learn from it? Or how can I use that to, like, understand clearly the decisions I need to make moving forward? It helps when we have questions going into any sort of inner work that we're doing. So that's, that's mostly how I work is, you know, coming to the table with like, what is it that clients are seeking clarity around and then pulling cards from that I'm mostly known for timeframes, because in the tarot, you can read definitely the images of the archetypes of the 78 cards, but there's also astrological rulings of each cards. There's seasonal rulings of the Four Seasons, there's timelines and numerology as well as cabbalistic tie-ins. So within that, a lot of people come to me because they want to see the like the highest and most probable timelines of things playing out like deals coming through and work like relationships coming to fruition. So that's how everyone reads differently. But that's, that's how I read.

Lisa Carmen Wang 17:50

Interesting. And so the learning of taro Did you started, you picked up your first tarot card when you were 11.

Cardsy B 18:01

Yeah, yeah. So it was just it was a weird self-taught thing, because a lot of people asked me because I know there are a lot of readers and healers in the metaphysical world, but it was passed down through generations. And it's not in my family anywhere that I know of. But it was something I was drawn to, I believe it was probably a past life if you subscribe to that school of thought because it came very naturally to me as a kid, and then kind of disregarded it all through high school in my 20s. And it was really that dark night of the soul-breaking point of just losing everything that I came back to it. And then it was It wasn't just like okay, poof, then I became this like very successful celebrity tarot reader. It was I kind of built a bridge in terms of I was working freelancing and fashion at that point, because I had lost everything was in the terrible apartment like Soho, close to Chinatown. I claimed that it was Soho, but it was like way more Chinatown than Soho, like with not working gas, cockroaches, rats, and I was freelancing in the fashion industry and I would at lunchtime read for colleagues and they're like, oh my gosh, like this chicks really good. She just predicted that I was gonna get pregnant and she had it down to the like down to the week like all of these things like that. Even the private equity guys in the office were like, can you take a look at this deal? It was kind of like got around and through that word of mouth. People were then booking with me I didn't have a website or Instagram for my Tarot back then. And from there, I just started taking one on one sessions, but I like that I put my website together. Eventually, I illustrated and created my own tarot deck and then the podcasts and the book came later but it was not planned by any means. It was literally just something that I was finding so much healing in that time for myself, that I wanted to be able to help other people with Tarot as a tool and with what I was able to access and see in the cards.

Lisa Carmen Wang 19:45

Do you think anyone can be a tarot reader or learn the craft?

Cardsy B 19:49

I do? You know, it's like I wrote in my book that the first company I worked for was Nike I designed for Nike. And their mission statement is to inspire every athlete in the world. And then there's an estrus that says, if you have a body, you are an athlete. And I believe that about intuition. I feel like if we are humans in this lifetime, we have intuition. And it's a matter of just like athleticism. It's a matter of how much we hone that and work with that. And I even have, like a community that that I work with online that meets weekly that I work with intuition tools of, like down to small little things of sensing what elevator is gonna open, even with a deck of not even tarot, but like playing cards of picking them up in your hands, as do you think it's black or white? And the blacker read rather, and the more that we kind of work with that honing of our intuition, the more that we see that we develop it like working out in a gym with our muscle mass. So I think that we yeah, we all have access to it, obviously, like, I've been doing this for a while. So it's developed more and more of them, our clients, the more readings that I do, but I think like, we all have access to intuition, and then it all plays out in different ways. Some people like working with Tarot, some people like working with other tools. So it's kind of like what we gravitate towards of how we receive our sciences and information.

Lisa Carmen Wang 21:10

So I'm really curious because you mentioned briefly that you were doing tarot readings for some of these finance guys. Yeah. So how was taro in terms of predicting deals and like the spikes in the market or the

Cardsy B 21:25

yes, there was I was known for our accuracy. I had like one. It was funny, it was in my fashion world. And my Terrell Ward was we're starting to overlap. And that's actually a chapter because in my book and the Saturn diaries, it's half memoir, and then half what I call spellbooks. why it's called a modern-day Grimoire. Because at the end of each chapter is like a meditation or an elixir or tool that I use for healing, but it is kind of like the arc of my journey of going from being like having this all losing it, and then coming into my work now. And one of the chapters I talked about being at, I won't name her name, but like a high profile food liberty that was connected to a fashion client, I was at her house, and there was a bunch of private equity dudes there that were like, Oh, my God, like, she's here. Like, you can read ours and I was like, I was like, Guys, be cool, be cool, because at the Christmas party, then people would just like bomb me and I would be sitting there all night. So I was like, Okay, guys, I can look at this, but like, let's keep it chill. And then this high profile celebrity comes over. And she asked, she's like, Oh, you're the tarot reader I've heard about, can you read my cards, and she is a card in the deck that is not flattering. It's kind of about hurting money. It's four of pentacles. Because all of my cards are inspired by iconic women. So she's the inspiration for Pentacles. Is this the individual? Because it's about kind of like hoarding money. She may have done some insider trading and gone to jail. So I was like, Oh, my goodness, I cannot do this reading now. Because if this card comes up, and I'm doing the math in my head of like, okay, it's a, it's a nine card spread out of 78 cards, what is the percentage your card will come up? Maybe 10 12%. I'm like, oh, sorry, guys. I'm like, I actually don't have my cards. And they're like, oh, my gosh, but no, we need to know if this is going to close. But I did have a high accuracy. And some of those guys are still my clients today, years later and book virtual sessions with me. So yeah.

Lisa Carmen Wang 23:12

Amazing. So do you how do you apply taro to business now? And how would you recommend someone as they think about I mean, the macro economy right now is crazy? We've had the collapse of FTX. We've had the collapse, collapse of Silicon Valley Bank, we've had the crypto markets going up and now going back up again, and the recession. So how do you think, like, how do you see everything that's

Cardsy B 23:40

happening? Yeah, I think that like I do tend to look at things on more of a micro level for clients of individual situations. But on a bigger level, I think it all comes back to intuition is really trusting and surrendering to a place of peace and abundance. And I loved I shared one of your posts, just recently where you were talking about the shift from a scarcity mentality to abundance. And I think that that's the biggest thing that working in this world and working with Israel has taught me of kind of like, okay, where are we setting our intentions, and in doing that, that's going to alchemize the energy around us. So if we look at what's going on from a place of opportunities, that's where we're going to, like kind of guide the energy toward us. And even in terms of pulling tarot cards for that, I would say, we're going back to the intention of questions of what opportunities a lot are arriving in front of us versus like, kind of what to be fearful of, or oh my gosh, is this going to crash? Is this going to be lost over here? I would say like what opportunities where do we need to focus our intention? Where do we need to maybe focus our finances? Those are the questions to ask because coming at it from an abundant mindset is going to change the energies that kind of are working in commingling with our own.

Lisa Carmen Wang 24:53

And so how often do people come to you with specific should I buy this stock? Should I buy this Coyne should I buy, you know, XYZ? Should I invest in this deal?

Cardsy B 25:04

Yeah, I mean, it's a mix. So I have I definitely have people that come to me with those exact questions. I have a lot of people that come to me around relationships. And people that come with career changes. Right now, I think a lot of people like coming for changes in their purpose. So I would say those three, it's like money, kind of like change of like their purpose or pursuit of happiness within what they're creating in their career and love are the big three. And, yeah, I work with all three of those. But I would say that the biggest, the biggest thing around the finance piece of it is coming to a place of making changes. And I'm sure you see this and like your work and what you advise and teach as well. Making changes from a place of like calm confidence versus fear is so important. So anytime someone comes to me, and I can tell even their energy field isn't anxiety, I can say like, this is what I see as the highest timeline. But don't even make don't even move forward with that until you sleep on it until you're at a place closer to neutrality around the decision, which I know can be very hard to do, especially when abundance is involved. But that's really I think I like working a lot with helping people to recalibrate their own energy before making decisions one way or the other.

Lisa Carmen Wang 26:17

Amazing. I've had a recent shift myself in terms of Well, I just recently moved from New York City to Miami, and I am feeling the very distinct difference in energy between New York energy and Miami energy. And that is a reflection in my own body as well, where I found a lot of New York energy was, for me, it was becoming anxious and claustrophobic and heavy, constantly being surrounded by manmade, you know, buildings, the concrete jungle. And I was starting to find that I couldn't make decisions from that physical energy space. And having moved to Miami finally getting to this place where I'm like, Okay, I see water, I feel sunlight on my skin. I can feel I can there's space, I can find parks in places where there are not hundreds if not 1000s of people around me at any one time. And I'm able to then make decisions from a much clearer perspective.

Cardsy B 27:25

Yeah, well, as you know, I'm a former New Yorker, I was there for 15 years, and also now live in Miami. And I feel exactly the same as you about that. And I think that no matter where you live, even if you're still in a very densely populated city, or metropolitan area, it's so important to get that so low time to filter out any of that outside noise energy as much as possible. And I know that's more challenging if you're living in a small apartment in Manhattan versus like, we have access to the beach every day, which isn't a beautiful reset in nature. But I think wherever we can, kind of going into our own energy field and knowing the difference of what our energy solo feels like, versus when we're surrounded by others because I also experienced I love to New York, I like I said I was there for, you know, 15 years of my adult life. But I did notice that when we are empathic, which you are, which you know, any of the like listeners that are highly empathic and intuitive, we can start to tap into other people's fields. And sometimes it's a lot like radio interference, like when you're driving and like you've got a great song and it's like, that's your song. And that's your essence. And then all of a sudden, you get the kind of that static and all the other radio stations coming in, and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, where did that song go? And it can make us question our own base level. So I think even in super crowded spaces, it's important to whatever it is, that's grounding and resetting for us when I was in Manhattan, even when I didn't leave the city I was a big fan of taking baths when I could have just like sea salt baths, and like cleansing and clearing in that way. So I would say whatever it is, that's possible. We're totally spoiled with like beach access, like daily, but if that's not possible, finding the ways that you can kind of cleanse and reset and be like, oh wait, this feels like just my energy so that we know what it feels like when it starts to come in.

Lisa Carmen Wang 29:10

And so to that end, how do you release or like banish bad energy from your space? Let's say there's you know, other people's energy or just like things that have happened in a certain space and you're like, I got a what are some things that one can do?

Cardsy B 29:28

Yeah, okay, well, some like very quick resets are always like opening like this is before even getting super witchy because I do all of the very like, you know, like herbal smudges, cleanses witchy things but even before going there, simple things you can do that you have access to in your home, opening doors and windows of just like letting fresh air come through. If you feel like you're working from home, for example, and you had a really intense toxic meeting with your boss and you're like, oh, like open the windows, clear the windows. Let fresh air come in, even if it's cold outside. I also feel like if you do feel called to work with like herbs or crystals at all, that's where I do smudge with ethically sourced sage or Palo Santo, like I'm constantly clearing my space because I do energy work all day. And then stuff that I used to keep when I had a corporate-like desk and a corporate setup. Um, Shungite which I still keep like a small one on my little Tarot desk here. Shungite is great for just protecting and like guarding against any negative unwanted energy. And then Citrine is great for abundant so I always have Citrine in my workspace to bring abundance in. But yeah, for clearing and resetting, I would say working with Shadow Knight working with Onyx as crystals. And herbs like ethically sourced sage and Palo Santo are great to just like smudge the air and even if you are at an office space, or like sprays that have like sage oil, or palo santo oil, because I taught my mom this and she got like caused a whole fire alarm by trying to Sage getting early to her space, because she's like, Oh my gosh, there's toxic energy from this one person, I'm gonna stage my cubicle. And then the fire department came, I was like mom use this spray, like don't do that in shared space. So I would advise anybody who's like doing this in their actual shared office space, like use of essential oil sprays for that.

Lisa Carmen Wang 31:12

Yeah, I love that. I mean, I it's just like, and sometimes I've done that where I've opened up the windows, and I've put some palo santo in the room. And, but sometimes it's just like, especially if you've been in a relationship with someone, it's very hard, they live with you, it's very hard to like, let go of that energy.

Cardsy B 31:36

Well, and I don't know when this episode is going to air but right now we're at a really intense, tumultuous period. We're seeing it on the world stage, you know, with things that are happening financially, economically. But in a lot of our individual lives. There's a lot of upheavals right now, because we're moving towards the equinox, which is when we have like the same amount of light and shadow and the day, which is coming up on March 20. It's also the astrological new year of Aries season. So anytime leading up to that or shortly thereafter, it's a great time of clearing and cleansing our space. So even down to like spring cleaning and your closet. Because to your point when you're in a shared space, whether that's in relationship or in a workspace where there is like a toxic or abusive personality items hold energy. So I always recommend clearing and getting rid of what we can donating what we can and things that we're holding on to really doing kind of that like cleansing work around them. And that can be with smudging herbs, it can even be cleaning it can be like into deep cleaning with intention. I always it's so funny because I have taught my mom to like smudge with herbs but she's such a Virgo. She's such a cleaner and like I'm always like, I'm always like, okay, like as long as you're doing it with the intention of kind of like clearing out the negative and like that's why I love cleaning because it is so cathartic for me. So I would say any of that work in the next couple of weeks is so powerful as we welcome in the astrological new year.

Lisa Carmen Wang 32:56

Amazing. Okay, do you have your badass witches? Tarot

Cardsy B 32:59

do I do? Yeah. Okay,

Lisa Carmen Wang 33:02

raising? Can I ask some questions? Yeah, that's

Cardsy B 33:05

Awesome questions. Totally. Okay. Okay.

Lisa Carmen Wang 33:08

So I guess the first thing is really around the future of the bad pitch amplifier. So especially given this time, right now, as you said, there's a lot of changes happening, there's a lot of really big things coming out. And one of the things that I'm really excited for is we are going to start raising the package Empire fund. And this is a fund that is investing in companies creating exponential impact for women and the world. We already have a number of women who are coming in and investing and how, how big how important. Is this fun going to be? Yeah, let's

Cardsy B 33:42

take take a look. All right. So always look at what comes up at the base of the deck first, I love this you have the Sun card, it's inspired by sheer and my deck so that is kind of like all of the bling bling energy. It's like the sun, its abundance, its joy, it also illuminates the path forward for other people. So I think like yeah, there's joy and abundance for everyone involved in this specifically. But it's Trailblazer energy to have kind of like illuminating how this can be done and will be used as a model of inspiration for others. The other thing I'm getting is something like that between now and the Summer Solstice, especially with the sun at the base that feels relevant so I don't know if this is like an additional like big influx of financial abundance in this but between now and end of June is a substantial period of time, especially something in tourist season because the hero fat which is the card inspired by Oprah and my back is kind of like aha moments, big milestones that are coming Taurus into the end of June and big ways. So and I feel like this is things that are already in motion but kind of getting things like Yes, his green lights finalized in that time. And I do think that like this is a thing that like it is very important for are like other ventures moving forward, not just of yours and the individuals involved with this fun but like, again, the verse is saying like, it's the Angelina Jolie card with all of her babies strapped to her and my dad because it's saying like you are really supporting other people and like teaching them guiding them how to do this and the creation of this. So I think that it generates a lot more in terms of your literal empire of what you're creating, but also because this card is called the Empress, like you being the Empress, and that but that a lot of others are going to, like be inspired by by this and like stepping into this world where they may have had a lot of fears or uncertainties before. It also seems like there's something major. So the key dates I see for this tourist season. So like may end to like summer solstice, end of June, and then also something major are coming in Libra. So something additional that like this, this plus is what I'm getting something that's an add on something that's like an additional aspect of this that is sparked and comes to fruition and like Libra season September, October. So I was looking for that if there are any additional things that you're that kind of get added in are another area of focus that feels like Libra season, this is gonna get introduced in a powerful way.

Lisa Carmen Wang 36:19

Awesome. And I am a Libra. Oh, nice. So that is going to be a really big time for me because that is also when the book is going to be released.

Cardsy B 36:32

Yeah, so that might be Yeah, okay. Because yeah, ace of wands is like it's like a big successful passion pursue that. I'm like something else that's like, it works in tandem with the fun to kind of like, like, yeah, it's it also shot like sometimes light it gets, people are interested in both. But this is going to be really limited. Oh my gosh, I didn't realize that this was launching and Libra. Yeah, this is great. This is going to be huge. This is a big one. Ace of Wands is like big success vibes around this. Yeah.

Lisa Carmen Wang 37:00

So excited. And for everyone listening, the book that is coming out, will be announced very, very soon. But it brings together all of the bad bits of wisdom that have been gathered over the past 10 years. But yeah, that all sounds great. So I'm obviously very excited for all of this. And I think it also feels right in my body. And what's interesting is it took me some time to even get here where when I first ideated, the concept of the fund, I thought like who am I to be a fund manager who am I to be an investor? And then I was like, wait a minute, I have spent the last decade of my career focused on empowering female founders helping women raise capital being in the entrepreneurship and Silicon Valley and venture capital world and have focused specifically on female lead companies. And like who better why not right, who better to actually know the types of female lead companies that are going to succeed? And so part of releasing that good girl energy and coming into the bad paternity, which is like, of course, there's a fund of course, there's a book, of course, this is the next path, because part of that financial abundance that women have never been really afforded due to the system is that very few women get funded, very few women become fund managers, and very few women invest. And so I think this is really the beginning of a paradigm shift of investing like women investing in combining their assets together to invest in a better and bigger world through the BAD BITCH EMPIRE Fund.

Cardsy B 38:51

I'm so excited for this. And I'm so excited to be a part of it, because you are such an inspiration in that way. And I see that literally in your cards were people that may have been hesitant, insecure, uncertain, you make it very accessible and very empowering to do it. Yeah.

Lisa Carmen Wang 39:09

Yeah. Amazing. Well, this was super informative, and just so cool to bridge the spiritual, intuitive metaphysical world and the financial, the business all of it together. And I think the message really for anyone who's listening is that you already have that intuitive power within you. And the work is really learning how to tap into that how to let go of the voices that are diminishing your power or blocking your power and you know this is a testament you know, you myself all the women in the bad bitch Empire are a testament to how big and how successful you can be when you learn to access that power. Last question. Oh, yeah, is what does being a bad bitch mean to you?

Cardsy B 40:01

Oh, I love that and you know it's so funny because my tarot deck of iconic women is called badass Witches Tarot. So I love when I found your podcast. Initially, it was like, oh, like so much of it resonated. So being a bad bitch I think is the most again going back to what we unlock with intuition the most authentic and empowered version of ourselves. I love it. Thank you so much, Lisa. This has been amazing

Lisa Carmen Wang 40:26

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